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bugman

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posted March 23, 2002 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bugman     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.stick.com/method/greg_howard2.wmv

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fingerpickingood

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posted March 23, 2002 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fingerpickingood   Click Here to Email fingerpickingood     Edit/Delete Message
Sticks are great - You should check out Tony Levins and Trey Gunn. Both are great stick players.

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rivergrl

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posted March 23, 2002 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rivergrl   Click Here to Email rivergrl     Edit/Delete Message
That has gotta be one of the coolest things ive ever seen!! I gotta get me one of those!!!

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bugman

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posted March 23, 2002 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bugman     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I just found out that the Greg Howard Band just played in Philly. I probably could've gone if I found a ride.

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TheWalrus

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posted March 23, 2002 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheWalrus     Edit/Delete Message
Hey what do you know about that thing? Any Idea how much they cost or where to get it or who makes em or ne thing?
Other then www.stick.com ?

[This message has been edited by TheWalrus (edited March 23, 2002).]

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bugman

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posted March 23, 2002 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bugman     Edit/Delete Message
All of them cost more than $1000 US, I think

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jamesron41

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posted March 23, 2002 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jamesron41     Edit/Delete Message
That is a cool instrument.

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Bardsley

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posted March 24, 2002 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bardsley   Click Here to Email Bardsley     Edit/Delete Message
Am I right in thinking that King Crimson had someone playing a Stick at one point? I was blown away by the videos on that site, I want one now!

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zappatude

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posted March 24, 2002 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zappatude     Edit/Delete Message
That would be Tony Levin playing the Chapman Stick with King Crimson. He also has some sawed off drum sticks that he connects to his fingers of the right hand. Than he taps the strings with them.

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fingerpickingood

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posted March 24, 2002 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fingerpickingood   Click Here to Email fingerpickingood     Edit/Delete Message
I think they are called funky fingers.

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Chrille_A

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posted March 24, 2002 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chrille_A   Click Here to Email Chrille_A     Edit/Delete Message
WOW!!!!
that was awsome .
its the most wonderful instrument ive ever seen
tied with guitar for the 1st place

i have to learn more about them and get one.

thanks for the link!
take care guys!

/Chrille

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fingerpickingood

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posted March 24, 2002 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fingerpickingood   Click Here to Email fingerpickingood     Edit/Delete Message
Now that I think about it, I dont think Trey Gunn plays the stick, he plays a warr guitar - its very similar to a stick. I think its basically a stick with a guitar body.





[This message has been edited by fingerpickingood (edited March 24, 2002).]

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darkaether

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posted March 24, 2002 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkaether   Click Here to Email darkaether     Edit/Delete Message
As the second musician whose picture appears in the last post, former Stick player and current player of a Warr Touchstyle Guitar, I must say that the analogy of a Warr being a Stick with a body is about as far off as saying a Strat is a Les Paul with a double cutaway!

The differences in construction, hardware, electronics, options and most importantly *feel and tone* make these two very distinct beasties!

-Adam

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DoubleO

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posted March 24, 2002 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DoubleO   Click Here to Email DoubleO     Edit/Delete Message
OH MY GOD! That looks / sounds amazing
I'd love to jam with that if I ever got the opportunity.

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Bardsley

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posted March 24, 2002 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bardsley   Click Here to Email Bardsley     Edit/Delete Message
Cool, are you really that muso? Hey, does this count as having someone famous poating at our board? Anyway, you could still call it the same sort of instrument; a Les Paul and a Strat are both guitars, a Stick and a Warr are both.... well, I would say Sticks, but that seems to be a brand name so.... Crazy Bass Treble Insano Touch String Neck... I don't think it's going to catch on as a name.

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fingerpickingood

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posted March 24, 2002 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fingerpickingood   Click Here to Email fingerpickingood     Edit/Delete Message
darkaether, I understand where your coming from. Someone tells me their epihone is basically like my PRS I would get defensive too. But, I said its basically like a stick with a guitar body. you said the differences were

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The differences in construction, hardware, electronics, options and most importantly *feel and tone* make these two very distinct beasties!

To me, all those things are things that I can see being changed due to the different make of the instrument. its going to need different hardware, construction and electronics with the guitar style body. And most of all, the feel and tone will most definately change. I was just giving everybody a basic idea on what a WARR guitar is, and personally I still consider it to be basically a stick with a guitar body. Its played the same way and produces a lot of the same results. Not to mention they have the same basic idea behind them.

Im sure being an avid player, one may tend to find a larger difference between the two, so im sorry if a struck a wrong note.

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fingerpickingood

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posted March 24, 2002 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fingerpickingood   Click Here to Email fingerpickingood     Edit/Delete Message
P.S. Your music is great and your singer is quite sexy.

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zappatude

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posted March 24, 2002 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zappatude     Edit/Delete Message
darkaether, the Warr guitar is described as a touch guitar? So is it like a tapping technique? It looks like it has magnetic type pickups. So does string vibration create the sound?

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darkaether

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posted March 24, 2002 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkaether   Click Here to Email darkaether     Edit/Delete Message
What I was getting at with the LP/Strat analogy is that they are both individual types of electric guitar. Similarly a Warr Touchstyle Guitar and a Stick are both individual types of touchstyle instruments.
A LP is not a Strat and a Warr is not a Stick.

There are several different touchstyle instruments of many different designs, tuning and string configurations - some have as many as 14 strings! The only common factor is that they are designed to be played by tapping the fingers of both hands on the strings against the fretboard to sound notes. No picking or plucking required. This allows the player to play two independent parts or interlocking parts - like a keyboardist. The first instrument specifically designed for this style of playing was made by Dave Bunker in the 50s. Since then there's been the Stick, Warr Guitar, Mobius Megatar, Solene, Box Guitar and several others.

The actual two handed tapping style of play has been around even longer and originated on plain old electric guitar. A guy by the name of Jimmy Webster published a book called "Touch System for Electric and Amplified Spanish Guitar" back in 1952. Jazz guitarist Stanley Jordan is well known for touchstyle playing on his 6 string guitars.

I used to play a 10 string Stick with the typical Stick split type tuning. Since 1998 I've been playing a custom built 8 string Warr Touchstyle Guitar with the strings tuned consecutively in 5ths with a minor 3rd and a major 2nd on the two thinnest strings. This gives me the full range of both a bass and a guitar. It has dual custom built Bartolini pickups with the Bartolini 18 volt active electronics.

If you want to hear some of the music created with both instruments, check out the sound samples from our 3 albums on our website at http://www.darkaether.net/

-Adam

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T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t
http://www.darkaether.net/

** The new CD "The Gentle Art of Firewalking" is available from:
Amazon.com - Artist-Shop.com - CDBaby.com - CDStreet.com - LaserCD.com
MandMMusic.com - OSMind.com - SynPhonic.8m.com - WaysideMusic.com

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Bardsley

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posted March 25, 2002 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bardsley   Click Here to Email Bardsley     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, it's interesting to hear how old the technique is. Those guys must have been pretty hardcore to do it with standard electrics though....
I'd love to learn how to play a stick, but I have never seen one in the flesh before, and I'm guessing they're pretty expensive.

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fingerpickingood

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posted March 25, 2002 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fingerpickingood   Click Here to Email fingerpickingood     Edit/Delete Message
Bards - you really should check out Stanley Jordan - He plays a real laid back jazz. First time I heard it I thought nothing of it, until I was told it was only one guitar player with no overdubs!!!! The guy is sick.

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