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WES1280

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posted February 25, 2002 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WES1280     Edit/Delete Message
Ive heard of bands tuning to " concert pitch " .....what is this???? Is it a half step down or a full step or something??

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arcandor

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posted February 25, 2002 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcandor   Click Here to Email arcandor     Edit/Delete Message
concert pitch => i think it means that the tuning for the A below middle C is set to 440 Hz, the standard tuning for pianor/guitar tuners, pretty much anything...
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fingerpickingood

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posted February 25, 2002 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fingerpickingood   Click Here to Email fingerpickingood     Edit/Delete Message
yep, arcandor is right.

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StoneDragon

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posted February 28, 2002 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneDragon   Click Here to Email StoneDragon     Edit/Delete Message
...except that A 440 refers to the A above middle C.

Concert pitch is considered the international standard for orchestral tuning. There aren't any pitch police to arrest you if you don't follow the standard, however.

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greshaki

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posted March 05, 2002 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for greshaki     Edit/Delete Message
isnt there something saying that a guitar can only approximate concert pitch? like there's a difference and properly tuning a guitar spreads the difference over the neck so not so obvious?

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StoneDragon

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posted March 05, 2002 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneDragon   Click Here to Email StoneDragon     Edit/Delete Message
I think you're mistaking the concept of tempered tuning with the concept of concert pitch.

Concert pitch simply dictates which note will be the note all others are tuned to, accordingly and the exact pitch of that reference note... A=440hz.

Guitars are easily tuned to this pitch reference... in fact electronic tuners are callibrated to this A=440hz standard.


Tempered tuning refers to how each of the remaining pitches are tuned relative to the concert pitch. The standard guitar fretboard is designed to accomodate equal temperament... as is practically every modern instrument. Equal temperament means that there is equal distance (measured by pitch... not physical distance) between each and every note of the chromatic scale.

Now, some people are very unhappy with equal temperament, because it is a compromise between being able to play in all keys with equal facility and having popular chords sound out of tune... namely open position major chords. these same people have gone to a lot of trouble to design systems that will allow you to play your open position chords closer to in tune... problem is... when you mess with the pitch of those notes, you mess with how they react along with other pitches on the neck.... in other words you've created one tuning nighmare while trying to solve another tuning nightmare.

One way to try and lessen the effect of messing with a few notes is to design your system in such a way that you "spread the difference over the neck so not so obvious".

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